Born in and totally belived it, went to Bethel, pioneered, elders wife, etc found TTATT at age 45. I wish I had known sooner, what a waste of my life.
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How old were you when you left the Watchtower - SURVEY
by usualusername ini believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .
i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .
uun.
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International conventions - Seattle
by Lynnie injust found out from my jw mom that the congregations located in the suburbs north of seattle.
will be renting buses to shuttle people back and forth to the international convention at husky.
stadium.
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Shepherd the Flock Book - Did Your Wife or Other Family Member Find It?
by jw07 inthose of you who served as elders, did your wife or other family members / friends find your secret shepherd the flock book?
how did they react?
how did you react?.
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I was like nugget. I never cared, I was way to busy with working and trying to support us to pioneer, my husband was gone most of the time doing his elder stuff and the thought never crossed my mind to even look for his book, he might have had it with him for all I know. I was bored enough just trying to read the WT and Awake anyway, that was horrible enough.
What I do knoe is it was horrible being an elder's wife, I wish I could go back and tell my 20 something year old self to run. All those wasted years, being treated like dirt and sitting in the car for hours. What a waste of life.
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I want to start a website/ministry to help JWs leaving - how and why?
by Dogpatch ini have plenty of tips on my older site on starting ministries or outreaches.
though today they are now generally sites for public assistance, not personal blogs or opinion or doctrinal sites.
free minds has covered doctrines, news, opinions, and more for 32 years (since 1996 online).
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Freeminds was my first sight also. Thank you
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
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Great post Outlaw If only more people would stand against evil the world would be such a better place, I just do not get those who still can sit at meetings knowing that child molesters and now this stealing of money are sitting next to them and worse knowing that they go door to door. It just makes my blood boil to think of this and yet most just go with the flow, to me they are just at evil as those who do the crime.
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Additional BOE Letter: Please Be Advised that Further Direction Will Soon be Sent to the Bodies of Elders...
by TTATTelder indear brothers:.
we are writing as a follow-up to the letters dated january 24, 2014, and march 29, 2014,. to all congregations regarding the adjustments now underway to accelerate construction of king-.
dom halls and assembly halls.. .
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I was a door-to-door magazine salesman...but I didnt know it!
by Londo111 inboth jws and former jws dont seem to remember that up until 1990, jws sold magazines, books, and brochures from door to door.
you went to either the magazine or the literature counter and bought publications that you were going to sell.
pioneers would get a slight discount.
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I will never forget when the donation arrangement came into affect. I was a newly married and my husband had been asked to move where the need was great. We both pioneered and were trying to live on $200.00 a month which did not work but anywho my husband was busying doing his elder thing after the meeting and he asked me to go and get the magazines for the next day in service. I did not have any money as I got paid on Fridays, and it was only a donation right. Well that had just started and the brother behind the counter asked me for money, I said it is the donation arrangement now. He pullled the magazines out of my hand and LOUDLY said until I see money from you I will not give you one magazine. He was shaking with anger at me.
I was so morrified I just wanted to crawl away. My husband of course did not believe me as this bother was just too nice to be so nasty, I had to be making it up. I will never forget how horrible I felt that day.
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Did anyone in the congregation discourage you from going to college?
by Trapped in JW land ini remember being out on service with an elder when i was 17. he asked me what i plan on doing after high school.
i told him i was thinking of going to college to be a teacher.
he then asked me, "do you think this system is going to be around that long"?
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Yes! After coming back from Bethel I got a job that would pay for colleage class. So I started to take a few courses. I never told anyone in the hall that I was doing the classes and I totally enjoyed them. Than one of the classes happened to be on a Saturday morning, and I (gasp) missed field service that day for the class.
Well being my husband was an elder, the next Saturday morning I was RIPED to shreds in front of everyone by a busy body sister who felt like she was in charge of the hall. I was asked to explain why I would waste my time taking classes when I was an elders wife knowing the system was ending any day. I was totally humiliated in front of everyone. No one stood up for me in the least as she was yelling at me so I mumbled something stupid to get her to shut up. That morning my husband suggested that I stop taking classes, because I might not be setting a good example, so I did.
Yet others in the hall did get their AA the same way, through work paying for it. I still feel bitter over it and do not understand why I was so beat up over it, I wish I had stood up for myself better but I had no self confindence in myself back than.
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WTBT$ will no longer support Elder's legally....
by Newly Enlightened inwe received an email and are wondering if anyone can verify this little tidbit of news.
does anyone know if this is true or not?.
maybe any elder's on here?.
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This would be very interesting. They stopped supporting JW's who go onto property with no trespassing signs back I believe in the early 90's. I know where I live JW's never respected the no trespassing signs and a car group from the hall the next town over went into this guys yard, we lived in the country. The rumor was that the householder locked the gate behind them, called the police and all the JW's in the car had to pay for violating the sign.
I tried to get the rumor confirmed but no one would verify it, though after that NO ONE in my hall ever went into a no trespassing home after that.
I can so easily see this as being true.
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Avoid Going back to the JW's - Educate Yourself about Mind Control
by flipper ini've talked with some good friends on the board about this before and we seem to be in agreement : one reason ( among many ) that some disfellowshipped jw's go back and return to the wt organization is because they are full of uneeded guilt or uneeded fear because they haven't educated themselves about how the wt society uses mind control tactics to deceive them into thinking they have " nowhere else to go " .
i understand that some dfed ones may go back to the organization for family and friends- however- it's an exrecise in futility because once you learn the truth about the truth you cannot undo what you heard.
so some may just go back and live a fake jw life to appease family- but just think of how that can damage a person's emotional and mental health playing the fake jw game the rest of their lives !
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Very great post flipper.
I think the religion gets into the deep parts of ones mind and unless you work to change it will come up and up again and again. You will either be supper depressed or a very frustrated person unless you do the work to really learn TTATT and that is really hard work. Most people do not want to read and learn, especially us born in's. We were programed to just sit and listen and nod our heads and then do what we were told, but not to really read or learn anything out side of the religion.
Everyone also is in different places in their lives like OTWO said and we should not judge them or get mad at them. I know one ex JW family who spent years and years and years going over the 587 607 debate, they had every WT and Awake and "wordly" articles on the subject that exists. I mean I listened for hours and hours and hours and hours to them go over it and over it. They gave me tons of prints outs on it. They were so passionate on it that I just let them talk. But to me once I understood the basics of it I was good.
Now the pedophiles problem is huge for me in the religion. I have have seen with my own eyes three pedophiles in my hall but to this family it meant nothing, it was like OH well just move on. They actually forbid me to even bring up the subject when I was around them and I was not to tell anyone that JW's have pedophiles in the religion because as they put it, 'it made me look like I was still angry'.? Why should I not be angry? They were so angry about the 587 607 thing that one of the daughters even sent out over 200 letters to ones in the congregations that they knew in their area. And yet I was over board for telling ones about child molesters in the hall?
Anyway that is why I have backed off from even posting even on this sight. It just really hurts to get so rebucked and put down by not only JW's but even ex JW's.
I just think so many just do not leave the "I am right I have the chosen religion God is with me, you are the one in the wrong attitude" that was drilled into us so strongly in the religion. Many have a hard time respecting the rights of others to have a different opinion.
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